Liberty and discipline

Infinitives Unsplit has a nice post on the necesity of Liberty and self-discipline in society: People follow conventions of society, the written and unwritten rules we live by, because of 4 rules

"# Your own advantage;
# Consideration for others;
# Confidence in others:
# Fear of punishment"

So the problems of the oft stated break down in society over the last 50 years may be less to do with the great increase in Liberty, as most of the people that perceive there to have been a decay in society, but rather the lack of a coresponding growth in personal self discipline. Probably due to the nanny state absolving any need for self discipline by attempting to do everything for everybody.